| 15 May 2022 |
 Nico | In reply to @memorysafetybelike:envs.net
Often enough it breaks when I update my system Duh, you need to update you systemd | 19:41:34 |
 life-the-user | In reply to @life-the-user:matrix.org
Openrc service script is just few bash functions right? ? | 19:41:38 |
 Babba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena) | In reply to @deepbluev7:neko.dev
Duh, you need to update you systemd I do. I update everything at once | 19:42:05 |
| Nico | In reply to @memorysafetybelike:envs.net
I do. I update everything at once It was a joke ;p | 19:42:50 |
| Nico | About you forgetting to update the d too | 19:42:58 |
| Babba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena) | Last time I ran Ubutnu on bare metal I had multiple systemd issues that prevent booting, despite the fact that I was on a default config | 19:43:10 |
 inference | In reply to @memorysafetybelike:envs.net
If systemd wasn't the de facto standard I would never have considered using it. It's large, complex, hard to use, bloated, and vulnerable Facts. I have no idea what mentality anyone used other than "convenience" to make it the de facto. It's an embarrassment to Linux and its modularity. | 19:43:23 |
| life-the-user | inference: do you know how to create openrc services? | 19:43:37 |
| inference | In reply to @life-the-user:matrix.org
inference: do you know how to create openrc services? Yes. It's not that difficult. | 19:43:47 |
| Nico | I had lots of systemd issues when distros switched to it, but not many since then | 19:43:48 |
| life-the-user | In reply to @inference:tchncs.de
Yes. It's not that difficult. Is it just few bash functions? | 19:43:58 |
| Babba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena) | In reply to @inference:tchncs.de
Facts. I have no idea what mentality anyone used other than "convenience" to make it the de facto. It's an embarrassment to Linux and its modularity. RedHat petitioned pretty hard for systemd to become the standard | 19:44:08 |
| inference | In reply to @life-the-user:matrix.org
Is it just few bash functions? The packages usually have their own you just copy across to init. | 19:44:17 |
| inference | In reply to @memorysafetybelike:envs.net
RedHat petitioned pretty hard for systemd to become the standard Ah, yes, Red Hat, as always. | 19:44:31 |
| Nico | In reply to @life-the-user:matrix.org
Is it just few bash functions? https://github.com/OpenRC/openrc/blob/master/service-script-guide.md | 19:44:35 |
| life-the-user | inference: I think I will just choose openrc as main init system to learn | 19:44:40 |
| life-the-user | That means I won’t be able to use void | 19:44:49 |
| life-the-user | Cuz lazy to learn runit | 19:44:53 |
| life-the-user | In reply to @inference:tchncs.de
The packages usually have their own you just copy across to init. I’m planning to create my own services | 19:45:12 |
| Babba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena) | Runit is literally the easiest init to learn. The entire usage guide fits into 4 sentences | 19:45:31 |
 septemberdismay | In reply to @life-the-user:matrix.org
That means I won’t be able to use void Just use https://git.arrr.cloud/whichdoc/plagueos | 19:45:41 |
| septemberdismay | Its literally so easy | 19:45:48 |
| septemberdismay | Or if you want something more secure than that go for hardenedbsd.org or qubes-os.org | 19:46:18 |
| Babba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena) | If you can create a symlink you're about half way to being a Runit expert | 19:46:40 |
| life-the-user | In reply to @septemberdismay:tchncs.de
Just use https://git.arrr.cloud/whichdoc/plagueos I don’t need security sooo much actually | 19:47:17 |
| life-the-user | I also want it to be usable | 19:47:28 |
| inference | In reply to @life-the-user:matrix.org
inference: I think I will just choose openrc as main init system to learn OpenRC is probably the 2nd most widely used init. It has support of Gentoo hackery, Devuan, and many others. | 19:48:58 |
| inference | It's also based on the rock solid 40 year old sysvinit which does one thing and does it well. | 19:49:39 |
| Babba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena) | In reply to @septemberdismay:tchncs.de
Or if you want something more secure than that go for hardenedbsd.org or qubes-os.org I wouldn't say HardenedBSD is definitively more secure than Plague. Both are fairly early in development | 19:50:05 |
| inference | In reply to @memorysafetybelike:envs.net
I wouldn't say HardenedBSD is definitively more secure than Plague. Both are fairly early in development HBSD is the better choice due to long-term development and the fact that it has CFI in base and packages. That's extremely rare. | 19:50:43 |
