| 4 May 2022 |
| *  nephele will start taking the bridge seriously when it stops replacing irc user nicknames with matrix equivalent nicknames | 08:30:31 |
 Nico (Nico/Nico) | In reply to @nephele:nheko.im
I don't know, it doesn't work! Installing the visual studio runtime redistributable 2017 or 2019 should fix it, but the installer should have done that too | 08:30:57 |
| nephele | Where do i get that nico? | 08:31:07 |
| Nico (Nico/Nico) | From microsoft | 08:31:24 |
 joepie91 🏳️🌈 | In reply to @jesopo:element.io
the release was made an hour ago, fwiw https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/releases/tag/0.34.0 I only learned about it from the bot message here and the kline was 5 minutes later | 08:31:26 |
| nephele | red_sky 🌌: damn you! now i'm going to try start11 | 08:31:26 |
| nephele | Nico: yes, but ... where? | 08:31:31 |
 jess 🐈✨ | In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
I only learned about it from the bot message here and the kline was 5 minutes later well, job success then | 08:31:43 |
| nephele | how come this room is place for a discussion about irc bridge klines? :) | 08:32:05 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | and considering that f0x is currently asleep and/or away, that means all my IRC bridging is now effectively broken, and I have no idea until when, and f0x also doesn't know about it yet, because there was no pre-announcement | 08:32:12 |
| jess 🐈✨ | yup | 08:32:25 |
| nephele | Hate to say it but bridging will always be unreliable | 08:32:41 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | (plus I need to manually rejoin a bunch of channels) | 08:32:55 |
| nephele | (especially the way matrix bridges stuff... ) | 08:33:15 |
| jess 🐈✨ | In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
(plus I need to manually rejoin a bunch of channels) take it up with matrix? | 08:33:28 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | the kline was decided on by libera, not by matrix, no? | 08:33:45 |
| jess 🐈✨ | yes, and a k-line was the only option here | 08:33:56 |
| nephele | libera has no way to decide how matrix implements the UI | 08:34:00 |
| nephele | there is no technical reason why the bridge has to kick you or make you otherwise leave the room instead of any other option | 08:34:23 |
| nephele | for example setting the powerlevel to talk to high or something | 08:34:36 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | ℕ𝕖𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕖: well, yes, there is | 08:34:36 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | but that's a whole separate discussion | 08:34:41 |
| nephele | (effectively muting everyone) | 08:34:43 |
| jess 🐈✨ | the fact that the result of protecting users from getting owned is a bad user experience on matrix isn't libera's fault | 08:34:45 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | in fact, "just muting everyone" would violate the requirements that libera afaik places on the bridging | 08:35:01 |
| jess 🐈✨ | yes | 08:35:11 |
| jess 🐈✨ | matrix users have to be present IRC-side if they can see IRC messages | 08:35:20 |
| nephele | > in fact, "just muting everyone" would violate the requirements that libera afaik places on the bridging
Which is perfectly fine, because you aren't bridging when klined | 08:35:26 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | jess ✨: it would be a bad experience even without the kicked-from-room issue | 08:35:29 |
| nephele | *shrug* | 08:35:30 |
